I like extra firm pillows. So often I havebought pillows and they were great in the store. Then of course they were nice and extra firm for a week or two and then the firm was gone. Not these pillows. They stay extra firm, stayttheir shape and feel great to sleep on. In fact I am considerig buy another set for hte guest room. I fyou like extra firm matress and extra fim pillows. Then these are the pillows. My conquest for an extra firm pillow is now done!