Loved them but they were uncomfortable to sit in for very long. I tried to send these two back as the next four I ordereed were perfect. Living in Ca., I visit here in Ma. every 5 months or so, therefore, the time allowed to ship them back expired. I had to send them back on my own but couldn't afford to. So I am stuck with two uncomnfortable, unneeded white chairs. Sincerelyt submitted, Helen M.