GREAT pillows at a great value. You won't be sorry if you purchase these. They're dense like a new down pillow, but no feathers to poke your face. I've had them 2 months now and unlike down, they're still fluffy and supportive instead of all smushed. They're heavy in the pillow case and a good size. Not super long, so they fit king sized and smally cases no prob. Wonderful, soft, supportive, heavy/dense but not with that flattening-type of squishy.