I only buy high thread count sheets and was thrilled to find such a great deal, especially for my california king bed (good deals on that size can be hard to find). Still - based on other reviews and past experience with high thread count sheets - I knew that I would need to wash these sheets a few times before they would be soft enough to sleep on. Well, I am still washing these sheets. My hubby and I have gotten into the habit of simply throwing them into every load of laundry. They are definitely getting softer, but we have washed them at least 20 times (no exaggeration), and they still aren't ready to sleep on. The fabric is wonderfully smooth, but just too darn stiff. And we've tried every trick in the book to soften them as well. The fabric is very high quality, which is part of the problem, but in this case I would give up some of that quality if it meant I could actually use the sheets.