These are very nice firm pillows, especially for a side sleeper. They are a little too firm at first and then break in just right in a week or so. I didn't realize that they were not machine washable (the product description was accurate, I just didn't notice) before I bought them. They are so comfortable that we are using them anyway, so I bought pillow protectors to keep them fresh. I would have given them all 5 star ratings, but being machine washable is an important feature to me.