Thes are very nice pillows at the Overstock price. Yes they are firm but cuumpress enough to still be comfotable. Hold their shape well you only need one as it has all the support you need. With a thread count of 500 they should last a good bit longer than the brand X cheapie pillows. I bought covers for mine, Made by Beautyrest on pillows and Healthguard for the covers, and expect they should last a good bit longer. After all it is the comfort and quality you want, which thes have, as well as the affordability. Sol in pairs you will have all you need, I've gone with less expensive and more expensive and found these to be a happy and affordable medium. Get the covers and you are all set for years of good sleep and less trips to replace those old sad looking ones we all have after a year or two. Good buy.