These socks are really warm, a must for the Michigan winter. They are thick, and this size fit both me (women's size 8-9) and my boyfriend (men's size 13). We wear them both out and at home.
Ordered a boys' size because the womens' and mens' sizes I needed were no longer available. The boys' size 16 worked fine but was too long in the leg and needed alteration. Pants kept me warm in teens weather without multiple layers beneath; kept out the snow and all wetness.
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