I have had these pillows for over 6 months and they are not extra firm. They have not held up well, do not feel similar to down at all (even though they are touted as down alternative). I will be looking for two pillows again which is too soon.
I was hesitant to buy these since they are much cheaper than the other pillows online. I must say however, that I like these pillows greatly! They are soft, they support my neck and are a great alternative to down.
I used both real down pillows and down alternative ones for years. These pillows behave like neither. They are firm and the shape doesn't shift at all. They are very nice pillows but if you're looking for a traditional down feeling try a different brand.
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