They are thick and firm and I thought oh no i cant use firm pillow i wasted my money but they are great i dont have pain when i wake up so im in heaven at night and they dont lose there shape or get flat like most pillows i would stronly recommend them
These are firm pillows. I am a back/semi side sleeper and these are too firm for me. I own the cloud mattress covers, awesome, this pillow misses the mark for comfort. The design has the makings for a great pillow, but already they have hardened and flattened a bit. For someone who wants firm inside and soft outside.. this is your pillow! Keeping.. as too much hassle to return.