i dont know why these people are downing these curtains. they are in excellent shape and in good condition. no threads hanging either. looks like shiny satin. but not thin at all. the color is excellent. the color is what i expected and viewed on web page. i could not believe it when i opened the box..i have extra large oval window and it realy would have took just one to cover it but i put up 2 instead and looks really great..im in awe right now..i also have bay window to cover and i ordered 8 sets and nothing is wrong with them. so get off ur putting down items..maybe u just hard to please..these curtains are really nice for the price...cant beat that..i will be buying sheers to go inbetween them with overstock.com..