If you are looking for blackout curtains, these are NOT for you. These are not blackout at all; not even close. In fact, nowhere on the package says so. Only one previous reviewer mentioned that this isn't really a blackout and too bad I didn't catch that before I placed the order. If you like the look of the product photo( I did!), you will have to buy at least 2~3 times the frame width to get similar result according to the manufacture. I recommend 4~5 times the frame width; anything less doesn't looks right because of the super stiff fabric. Please do your math before placing your order. My goal was to get good looking blackout curtains for reasonable price and I would say I have failed.