When I first received pants I thought they were great! They fit well and were very warm! The purpose for buying them was for going snow tubing. I wore them for 2.5 hours tubing and was soaking wet when I was done. While tubing you do sit on a wet tube while riding, and then drag tube and then ride again, so repeated sitting on a slightly wet tube does occur, but I did not expect to be soaking wet. My waist to my knees were soaked, and that defeated the purpose of why I purchased the pants.