I don't like hard pillows, I like soft ones that I can scrunch up under my neck and head, and these are the perfect pillows for me. I buy these often because it seems as if everyone in my house, once they have "borrowed" my pillows love them. Little if any odor when I first opened the box they come in, and in no time no odor whatsoever, and absolutely no down falling out of the pillows. The cover they come in is crisp, white, and comfortable. I love these pillows and will continue to buy them from Overstock.com. Its nice when overnight guests come to offer them a truly luxurious pillow to sleep on. Only problem is that overnight guests love these pillows so much they might want to extend their visit!