I think by now I have learned my lesson. I have ordered these recycled ink cartridges several times through Overstock and, depending on which one you order, it seems they come from different 3rd party vendors based on the packaging. My last orders came from some no-name company out of China. Of the two HP78 cartridges, one was dry (or at least no ink came out) and the other one had totally leaked within the plastic sealed packaging (thank God it was sealed). I didn't even try to open it or I would have had a real mess. This is not the first time I have had bad cartridges on these orders. Sometimes I had them over 30 days so they are not returnable; other times it was just such a pain I didn't try. But I don't think I really saved any money by getting these refilled cartridges given the number that failed. I would not recommend these through Overstock. Don't get me wrong, I like Overstock but not the ink cartridges they sell. Recommend you save yourself some trouble and find another source or simple buy new.