There is hardly any filling in these king pillows, even before you head hits them. Once you put your head on them, it hits the matress. When you try to bunch them up under your head, there isn't even enough of the filling to make a normal size pillow. I will admit, they are extremely soft like cotton - but there just needs to be more of the filling to make these pillows worthwhile. I bought them for everyday use, but I couldn't even use them for decorator pillows because they don't stand up at all. They are going back!