Pillows can be so expensive. I needed 4 for King Shams that work as bolsters during daybed couch set up and bed pillows for night time occasional overnight guests. These well do nicely. For a set of four which I needed for 2 outdoor day bed/couches the packaged deal made reasonable price per pillow. I slept on one for 4 nights to check it out & it's a win win for my dual purpose. These are not puffed up pillows so your head does not sink into them with pillows fluffing up around your ears/head. Instead you do seem to stay right on top of them but soft enough to provide support to neck. At least mine. So not clear if these will not flatten over time. I'm happy enough to return today for a set of the set in Queens. We prefer to sleep on Queen & not Kings despite having King bed. I also keep our bed pillows it protective/allergen cotton or cotton rich covers. For the outdoor ones I'll use the waterproof style protectors but in house use the cotton/cotton rich breathable protectors. This way the outdoor pillows are protected from the rare sprinkler/rain and wind situation as well as an occasional slip with a drink while sitting about on them.