I don't know that all the other reviews are for the same product...they sound so drastically different. I should have known when this item showed up on my doorstep in a tattered box that it was going to be disappointing. When we installed the bar it scuffed up the door frame and did not hold my 140 lbs self so nevermind a grown man. I was very disappointed not only in the packaging that it came in but the quality of the product. PS if you are ordering this as a Christmas gift like I was make sure you don't live with the person it is intended for, the box not only has a picture of it but also has holes in it so there is no doubt what has just been delivered.