I have used the cuisinart 12 cup grind and brew for several years. I love the convenience of a self grind machine. It gives us fresh coffee each morning. In fact the grinding is our alarm clock many mornings. I love the thermos carafe too. Coffee is fresh to the last cup. No burnt coffee taste after sitting awhile. This is our second pot in about 5 yrs. so the only down side is that they don't last a really long time. Otherwise, it is the best coffee system I've ever owned.