I have been making jewelry for45 years and needless to say, my tools are shot. I ordered these in a pinch and thought that they would hold me over until I could afford some more good ones like I've used. My problems with this product is: 1.They are tiny-which I expected, but I didn't expect the left over "nub" on the inside of the needle nose pliers which prevents them from closing all the way. This prevents me from getting a decent grasp on any small flat object. It also leaves an extra little dent mark on the metal that I'm working with. Shouldn't be there. 2.The round nose, they are even worse. When I grab a hold of wire (or a jump ring) to bend it, the two ends of the pliers twist around. This what my round nose was doing that I considered broken and needed to be replaced. if it didn't cost me more to ship this back than replace it- I would do just that. What a waste of money.