I don't know how I missed some of the comments that would have kept me from making this purchase. These pillows arrived in the flattest bag, so flat I was convinced, even though it said two pillows on the outside that they had gotten my order wrong. These pillows are so flat, hard, do not fit into a standard pillow protector or case well, and most of all they have an odor to them. I sampled this pillow watching TV and could get comfortable or take the smell, this was even after letting them sit around a day & a half to air out. VERY DISSAPOINTED, so dissapointed that I don't even have the energy to return them. They are not good for your head but not bad on your "bottom"