I typically have a terrible time with pillows. This time I was looking for old fashioned foam pillows but, if they still exist, I must have been calling them the wrong thing ''cause I sure couldn't find them. I also needed value. So I ended up going with Comfort Dreams Crowned Memory Foam Standard Pillow (Set of 2) and was pleasantly surprised. They don't feel at all like another memory foam pillow I have -- they're firmer (which I like), In fact, I like them very much. I usually use two pillows but with these I find one is enough for sleeping. Because of their firmness they're also pretty good for propping up for TV if you get the right angle, and for reading. I am very likely to buy again -- even before these are worn out -- like soon. I'm happy. I'm not sure why but they seem more compatible with my CPAP. Maybe the firmness keeps my head from sinking so much.