I've been looking and looking (and LOOKING!) for a really good firm pillow. I mainly want a FIRM pillow because, for some reason, any pillow I've ever used as an adult has rather quickly, well, fallen. I LOVE big squishy pillows, and if they would stay big and squishy and not collapse, I'd love to have some of those. But I've learned that's NOT the way to go; buying firm pillows works much better. These pillows kept their shape, "squish", and firmness for less than 2 weeks. Pretty awful. Don't buy them.