My son has had several pairs of snowboard pants, and he was so thrrilled to get these pants. He loved the features they had and he loved the way they fit. I was very leary on ordering them on line, but I went to several stores and they were so expensive, I couldn't see spending so much money on them. He tried them on and he said, Mom, you shouldn't have spent so much money on them. They are the best pants I have ever had. Thank you so much!!