These slacks are just great. The expander is hidden, so nobody can tell. Definitely not at all like the early years of the expander pant. These are truly great slack for work, church or a night out. Just order your correct size; no need to calculate in the expander - its only there if you need it; like after lunch for instance when dress pants can feel tight and uncomfortable. The fabric is an all-seaon light weight; more so than I'm used to but then again these are easily half the price of what I usually purchase. The pleats, and cuffs give a great finished look. The black/white check is a nice addition to my traditional office attire. Trendy, but no so much so to look out of place in the office. Upon arrival, check the fabric and seams for any flaws - thats my only advice. Mine had a flaw in the fabric weave but Overstock replaced it very quickly with absolutely no hassle. I have since ordered more of the colors offered and they all have been a great value, very comfortable and the colors and size are true. For me, these have been a wonderful purchase.