I think I a returned about 6 JD Fisk pairs of shoes due to sizing. Even though the "stamp" size in the shoe said 8.5 or 9 in reality they would fit a 7. One pair still to be returned-- The Top Sider is atrocious. The workmanship is terrible. When it's returned have look at the back-end top of the shoe. They are unfinished. As a loyal customer, I did re-order 9 and 10. The Chinese have the sizing all wrong.